These two are some of the baddest survivors out there and I’m so grateful to be acquainted with them! I’ve met both of them in person and have had a one-on-one with Terra due to a case out of Fremont NE. Most people will act sanctimonious and then ignore me. Terra, however, offered up pure empathy, compassion and solutions. She did not give me any kind of “mean girl” vibe, and Collier didn’t seem uppity and full of himself. (I say this because most people unfortunately do act that way) They both are incredibly wonderful and humble. This podcast is absolutely a five star podcast, but to add - I didn’t want to mention this but I’m going to - I really wish everyone leaving them so much hate would realize that they are humans just like all of us which ~ GASP ~ Means we ALL are flawed. We ALL make mistakes. What happened sucked, but like an actual ethical and compassionate person would do, they took accountability for their actions and apologized. Can we normalize being kind and understanding to one another and maybe learn to see all sides before going on witch hunts? Just saying.